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Message # 12877.1.2 Subject: Date: Fri 29/10/04 07:16:17 GMT Name: Victor Email: victor.ivanovich@mail.ru |
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It is true, that videos made by wetlook producers are of better quality, candid videos can't compete with them in this respect. It is possible to use better aquipment, film from different angles etc. But!!! Candid videos look more natural. And the girl in candid videos are unlikely to change their clothes, and have to dry off. Models, on the contrary probaly change. That is the advantage of candid videos, and to my mind, it is more important, than filming from diffent angles. As for our country, it is not ellegal at all to film candid videos, you won't be fined, but there is another problem, you can be beaten up and robbed of your camcorder. Don't know which is worse. |
In reply to Message (12877.1) ![]() By DungeonMasterOne -
This is the second such case this year - there was also someone arrested (and subsequently fined and banned from operating a video camera in public for many years) for wandering around York secretly filming, IIRC, women's (presumably clothed) bottoms.
A fairly detailed legal analysis of the situation, originally written by a lawyer in a general photography forum, was posted to one of the other wetlook forums a while back.
Basically, from what I remember, candid fliming without the knowledge of the subjects being filmed is illegal in the UK, candid filming for erotic purposes (posting the results on a fetish website or selling them as a fetish-related video) is, from what I remember, liable to be treated very seriously by the courts with the possibility of the victims (people featured in the resulting images) being potentially able to sue for massive damages.
Oddly enough something related to this came up on fictional cop show "The Bill" earlier today - the officers arrested a guy who'd been hiding in bushes photographing young girls playing. In the story he eventually turned out to be someone who's own child had died but who hadn't come to terms with it, and was using his pictures to convince himself that his own daughter was still alive - but of course at first the police were convinced he was dodgy.
The world has changed radically over the last 10 years, things that would have been passed over as innocent back then are liable to get people jailed now, as part of the (IMO, justifiable) crack-down on child abusers. When you read about some of the stuff that real paedophiles actually do, restoring the death penalty suddenly doesn't seem such a bad idea after all...
Personally I prefer modeled wam and wetlook - the random, unexpected scenes that I liked as a teenager were attractive simply because there was nothing else - now we have lots of pro producers and people willing to do all kinds of custom shoots, plus the few dedicated people who still run free sites with their partners or friends - so is there any real justificaton for candids any more? The results of modeled shots are usually far better anyway, you can get nice "before" dry shots, and if the camera operator and model are working together then you get better anticipation of what's going to happen next, better camera angles to show off the soaking, better lighting, etc.
I know some people like the "doing it for fun" as opposed to "doing it for money" idea. Has anyone ever done a modeled tape set up to look like a candid one? Could be a possible market for a producer to move into in the future?
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In reply to Message (12877) ![]() By Placebo Effect -
Website: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/gloucestershire/3959601.stm As a heads up warning to those who like to collect Candid Pics in public areas, please follow the link to a recent case in England of a man caught capturing non-wetlook candid shots. They charged him with Disorderly Conduct and fined him £500.
As much as I love the candid work you guys bring here, I'd hate to see anyone nicked for it. Go careful.
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