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Message # 39253.2.1 Subject: Date: Wed 04/03/09 04:50:49 GMT Name: Arthur Chappell Email: arthur@chappell7300.freeserve.co.uk Website: http://arthurchappell.me.uk/anti-sex.legislation.htm |
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<K writes "Holey Moley.....then I guess the millions of people who have copies of the James Bond films that having drowning scenes such as in CASINO ROYALE and who have episodes of Baywatch need to be in fear of being arrested too. And shows that put people in danger of getting injured (as per your thesis) would mean they would have to ban shows like FEAR FACTOR too.
To clarify - You can't be arrested for watching Casino Royale, but if you clip Vespa's drowning scene and / or keep and / or distribute stills of it or the whole scene, you could risk prosecution - that is how the law is thinking. They see it that you are isolating the imagery for sexual gratification alone - That you could legitimately own the DVD and play back the drowning sequence over and over without clipping it is kist on them. Wetlook on its own won't be affected by the law - It's when coupled with elements of danger or threat that the fun police could potentially pounce. It's just worth noting with caution that they are out there - Pam Anderson in wet jeans in Baywatch - no problem, Pam Anderson tied up and thrown into the sea, with the Hoff desperately trying to save her - no problem as long as its still only happening on the show - the same scene clipped for a streaming collection, a collection of such images, or even f its the only one you have, or as a still from it, and someone could knock on your door. Similarly with Fear Factor. Arthur Chappell http://arthurchappell.me.uk/anti-sex.legislation.htm |
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>Owning images and movies of women in danger, including some drowning scenarios could cause problems so some wetlook and >WAM fans are not immune from prosecution
Holey Moley.....then I guess the millions of people who have copies of the James Bond films that having drowning scenes such as in CASINO ROYALE and who have episodes of Baywatch need to be in fear of being arrested too. And shows that put people in danger of getting injured (as per your thesis) would mean they would have to ban shows like FEAR FACTOR too.
The reality is...no wam producer has to pay much attention to whatever the legislators are cooking up in the UK (especially when most of us have our servers in the USA and are not subject to UK law anyway)....cos wam sites are not EXTREME pornography....and if the legislators want to pick on EXTREME media, they need look no further to all the violent videos that are posted to YOUTUBE these days....so Youtube is what gives birth to extreme videos these days (e.g. allowing terrorist organizations to post their violent propoganda videos to Youtube).
The ONLY rules and regs that wam producers have to pay attention to...are not the ones set by U.S. or UK governments....but by their credit card provider....cos reality is...it is Visa and Mastercard who dictate what producers can and cannot do...not goverments....i.e. the current U..S. Visa and U.S. Mastercard regulations on what you can NOT do...are this.....i.e. our cc provider follows the same rules as Clips4sale.com uses...i.e. These are the Visa and Mastercard rules in the USA for what you can and cannot do...
"We can not allow any child porn, horror, snuff, nonconsensual sex, torture, asphyxiation, animal sex, hardcore bondage with sex, penetration with any form of bondage, necro, blood, scat, vomit, fisting, pissing ( peeing ) on people, drinking piss ( pee ), or crushing of crabs, lobsters, spiders, fish, scorpions, lizards."
If you break these rules, then Visa/Mastercard in the USA will fine you $25,000 or more. Apparently Visa and Mastercard rules in Europe are different if you have a Visa International merchant account...which is why some wam producers in Europe are able to do watersports pissing scenes in Europe, but that is not allowed in the USA, cos the credit card company will whack you with a huge fine if you break their rules.
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arthur@chappell7300.freeserve.co.uk
Website: http://arthurchappell.me.uk/anti-sex.legislation.htm New British laws against ‘extreme porn’ outlaw a lot of sexual practices enjpyed by consenting adults. Owning images and movies of women in danger, including some drowning scenarios could cause problems so some wetlook and WAM fans are not immune from prosecution I have added references to examples of wetlook images that could be problematic mentioned in this article To learn more about this, see my page http://arthurchappell.me.uk/anti-sex.legislation.htm and links to various advisory and action groups. Arthir Chappell |
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