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Subject: Re:Hmm, cynic me... To Anthony X

Date: Fri 21/06/13 15:29:20 GMT

Name: AnthonyX

Email: anthonyx@jowc.net

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By guitar guy - Fri 21/06/13 05:33:47 GMT

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"When it comes to a fetish like wetlook, if a woman gets turned on by wetlook, it's almost certainly because of how it feels... never mind what her guy is doing. All she has to do is fish some interesting outfit out of her closet and hop in the bath. Does she feel weird doing it? Does she need validation from other women that she is not alone/not weird? I don't know, but I'll guess the answer is either "what difference does it make what I do in private" or "that's what I have friends for". Women seem to be able to talk more openly amongst themselves than men do. Add it all up and there isn't the need for women to go surfing the internet in relation to wetlook"

I want to underline especially, "if a woman gets turned on by wetlook, it's almost certainly because of how it feels"

I think you can take this to the bank! But they will NEVER tell! Women share their most intimate secrets amongst themselves, not their husbands, (usually not) and certainly not their wetlook producers, as amicable as MK is, and Leon, and Flaviu... Getting a wetlook model (or any woman) to ilucidate upon the intimate details of her OWN fetishes isn't going to happen, especially not wet clothes. They may openly swoon over Tom Selleck's mustache (sorry about the antiquated example) or share their "fetish" for bald men, or Vin Diesel. Forget about any self indulgence, not in a million years, not going to happen. And if any lady will confess her own self indulgence to a man, THAT is the Unicorn IMO!

I have obsevered and conversed with woman about wet clothes for most of my life, and that would be since age 12. Not one ever said outright that she craves getting wet with her clothes on. But MANY have hinted in conversation and by example, always seeming to "fall in" or always seeming to get soaked (yet again) caught in a torrential downpour etc etc, and talk about THESE things.

 I have experienced many spontaneously wet females, which happened not by force (being thrown in) nor by compliance (everybody else jumping in so she does too) nor by doing it as a dare, nor for the money (I am not a producer)  

example 1: Just one example of many, I attended a college in the Southeastern US, a region known for its T storms with teeming downpours. The school had a dress code, so we were dressed in coats and ties, and the ladies in dresses with required hosiery. This was back in the early 70's. It was a raining that day, a spring day, and we just had a heavy downpour. Class let out; Rivers of water streamed down the slope of the parking area. So this one girl decides to walk through a trough where there was enough water to drown a bullfrog. Naturally all the rest were trying to AVOID that. She STOPS in the middle of it, looks down, bending her ankle, and in a moment of deliberation skews her high heel, as then force of the current parted gracefully like a bow wave. And like a dope (and still am) I had to run to catch the bus (some of us took the bus to classes)  By the time I caught up she was already seated on the bus. So I sat next to her, being a jackass and noticing her nylons transparent from the ankles down, with trapped pockets of air, (I liked that kind of stuff) all the water and air. Of course she was aware and maybe a bit uncomfortable, because she knew.. In spite of the tension, I somehow found the nerve to ask this essential point, bluntly: "did it go inside your shoes?" (I swear to God I asked that but felt an immediate flush of embarrassment) She answered nervously, "yes!" and that was all. I had placed my books on my lap to hide myself, but glaringly embarrassed beyond belief for the entire 5 minute ride back, but trying to look cool and collected. That didn't work out BUT, I ask my fellow wetlookers, (and with reasonable doubt) Was she only curious, or was she indulging because she liked the way that it feels?

example 2: Same college in the lunch line. I felt that I was connecting with a girl I found attractive, just talking about nothing, the line, the food, cool professors, and life on the farm... well,  (I was a jerk, 'cause my roommates berated me for having any interest in her) But I thought she had nice legs and definitely she did, haha! How would I know? It's because I am a silly man. Again, we had a dress code, so she was wearing the appointed hi heels with required nylons, always flattering to a lady's legs. But she asked the usual queries, what do you like to do for fun, and I happened to touch upon how I liked fishin'. She said: "I love fishin'.. then leaned over, in a quiet voice and then laughing a little, "But I always end up falling in". Surprised by this, I inquired, "Really? Every time?". Her answer was, "Yep, I always manage to somehow." I should have not listened to my roomates! (my intention still, was to ask her out fishing  .. but delayed) A few weeks after that, she was with a guy who probably did NOT listen to his roomates!

In example 2, it is possible the girl was only trying to impress the guy (who happened to be me), since wet clothing reveals the female form, so it looks "sexy". On the other hand, it may be possible she "managed to fall in" simply that she liked the sensation of wet clothing, and on her own accord was implying that.

By AnthonyX - anthonyx@jowc.net Wed 19/06/13 20:43:33 GMT

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This is an old argument, but let's have another kick at it...

Men and women have certain differences in approach to things and in communication style (among many other things).

We tend to be more visual in that it's more often the man looking at erotic pictures, watching erotic/pornographic video than women.

But, women are essentially THE consumers of all those Harlequin romances, etc. which are, in a manner of speaking, porn for the female mind.

When it comes to a fetish like wetlook, if a woman gets turned on by wetlook, it's almost certainly because of how it feels... never mind what her guy is doing. All she has to do is fish some interesting outfit out of her closet and hop in the bath. Does she feel weird doing it? Does she need validation from other women that she is not alone/not weird? I don't know, but I'll guess the answer is either "what difference does it make what I do in private" or "that's what I have friends for". Women seem to be able to talk more openly amongst themselves than men do. Add it all up and there isn't the need for women to go surfing the internet in relation to wetlook

On ther other hand, most men need visual stimulation; if there is no girlfriend or wife to satisfy them, they/we seek out pictures and videos of women doing what turns him/us on (wetlook, in our case). Do we think we're alone or weird? Well, those questions are what initially brought me to the usenet groups and ultimately the web. Not to mention the resource it has become for wetlook content.

Do the women who model wetlook get turned on by it? At least a few do, but none have to - they're either getting paid or finding some other reward (maybe she' an exhibitionist, or she's into the clothes she's modelling).

Put all this together and it says that gender representation in this forum says nothing about how frequently the fetish actually occurs in women vs men... if you want an accurate answer, you have to step away from the computer, go out into the real world and do a scientifically and statistically valid formal study - free from any possible form of sampling bias.

So, maybe the "confession of a female" was written by a man, but there is nothing tangible to discount it as an authentic female perspective. In the absence of anything to discredit it, I'll take it for what it purports to be.

By Steven Gerrard - Wed 19/06/13 19:33:49 GMT

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I wonder if wetlook as a fetish is a sole male domain, I think it might be. Don't get me wrong, I know there are women out there who don't mind/care about getting wet as fun or when drunk and enough who will get wet to please their guy but an actual fetish of their's? I'm not so sure. Would be interesting to find out the ratio's. The lack of female genuine online wetlookers makes me wonder.

When I first told my wife about my fetish she couldn't stop laughing, ok ok it IS quite funny, and she admitted to me she thought my fetish might be something harmful like swinging, rough sex, anal or BDSM (bit harsh?) but at the end of the day it's just fun to her and a treat for me to be played at 2-3 times a year. I can handle that.

I am not sure I could handle a female wetlook fetisher. It would kind of ruin it, because for me the buzz is thats it's not mainstream, it's not regular, it's a special occasion and mainly it's not what the female wants to mess up her hair or clothes. My buzz is her coming home in her suit and getting wet because it could wreck the suit or dress, not a shorts and t-shirt on the beach.

I often wonder how Leon views wetlook now compared to when he started, or MK (or Erik or any of the mainstream producers). Like a chef whose asked to cook when he gets home? You can have too much of a good thing? The taboo of it makes it for me.

By AnthonyX - anthonyx@jowc.net Wed 19/06/13 18:43:59 GMT

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http://www.swingingheaven.co.uk/shm/water.html

If only there was a nicely dressed woman and a swimming pool nearby...