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Subject: Re:sometimes the context is the most annoying thing

Date: Wed 25/05/22 04:01:29 GMT

Name: EdR

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As a producer I usually prefer not to get involved in production vs candid debates, but in the context of this topic, it’s a bit annoying to me that it’s even a debate. I know there are those who prefer candid over produced wetlook and usually for reasons of payment, and that’s fine, but having the perspective of a producer, I see things very differently. I sell my images, I’m also a life long lover of wetlook. No one questions my love for wetlook because I make money?! The way I see it, is if I’m selling my images and making money, it’s only fair to give some of the money I make to the girls who I need. Otherwise, I’d have to buy a life size doll, dress it up and then fish it out of the pool when the set is over.

You say, “Produced wetlook is not an indicator of what you might be fortunate enough to enjoy in real life. It’s hard to get excited over what is essentially fiction”

And this is where I’d have to disagree. I’ll be the first to admit that our produced wetlook is a fantasy. But what some would call real life or candid wetlook is but a fantasy also. How could I believe this? Because in every conversation on that subject, which I’ve read, it is assumed that the woman you see candidly is doing it because she is somehow personally into wetlook and nothing could be further from the truth. I just see a woman getting wet in her clothes and having fun, in the moment. Exciting as the thought is, that she enjoys getting wet, the reality is more likely to be a one off event in which she is doing something she gives no mind to, and normally in her real life does not partake in. In real life there are very, very few women naturally into wetlook

I know this is probably harsh, and kills the fantasy but I’ve learned a lot by being around the girls. Women are very different from men in the way they think and the way they feel. If a woman isn’t personally into wetlook, they could get into wetlook. All it takes is to understand that if they feel that it turns you on, it will turn them on. My wife wasn’t always into wetlook until she met me, but now it’s a turn on for her because she knows it turns me on. The models are similar in that respect. Sure they do make money, but they also love the attention. That’s important for a successful photo session. They need to know that there are guys out there who will love and appreciate them thru their image. Here’s another little secret, some of them, I don’t have to pay. That’s right, some will model for free, but I just don’t feel right since I do make money. And that would be another point of annoyance between produced vs candid wetlook. With candid, the girls are often being recorded without their knowledge or consent and put on some website, I just have a problem with that, more so if it’s a pay site.

EdR

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Re:sometimes the context is the most annoying thing

By Malvineous - mrnemesis@ntlworld.com Tue 24/05/22 12:56:08 GMT

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Produced vs candid material has long been a thorny matter of debate. The difficulty for me with produced material is that all the women involved are just models who are there to get paid. That is not to say that none of them enjoy it, as clearly plenty do have a lot of fun, but we don’t know how many of them enjoy get wet fully clothed outside of the photo and video sessions. Produced wetlook is not an indicator of what you might be fortunate enough to enjoy in real life. It’s hard to get excited over what is essentially fiction: it’s the same as watching television shows that depict things that would never happen in real life, especially shows that stretch the boundaries of plausibility. It’s why I don’t find wet_lotte’s stories exciting: they are all so hopelessly unlikely as to be unbelievable. This is of course a matter of perspective: details matter hugely to me, but to many people they do not. I need to be able to relate to the story.

I don’t know how much blame can be put onto the models who are not fully dry before the next shoot — this is more of a logistics matter of the production process, and it’s the producers who you would have to question. Wetlook for some models seems to be a preferable alternative to lingerie or nudity, without being anything that excites them in any way. If the models don’t understand the fetish, they would not necessarily have any desire to argue about how the shoot is being arranged. It’s down to the author of the fiction—the producers—to ensure that the details we desire are all taken care of.

Perhaps we need an adjustment in balance more in favour of quality over quantity!

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sometimes the context is the most annoying thing

By Silas - Tue 24/05/22 11:39:37 GMT

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There have been a few times in my life where a girl, out of love, really applied herself to please me. Dressed herself up like a perfect 10, night out on the town, to end the night in the shower together. A really long, hot, affectionate clothed shower. These have become the most cherished of memories.

Unfortunately for me this was not the typical experience. I think it differs from man to man, but more often the message I get is - you don't deserve to have me go the extra mile to please you - don't deserve, aren't worth it, not good enough for me, haven't 'earned' it.

Which is fine, if it were honest... I am not above admitting my faults and trying to do better... but typically this is a ploy to see how much more she can get out of me. It's hard not to resent someone who has no real intention of ever pleasing you, but is happy to try and manipulate you for anything she can get out of you. It's difficult to feel safe around someone who would happily see you homeless if you let them do their worst.

So these little mistakes - unzipped fly, already wet underwear, wrinkled outfit etc.. can be extra annoying because they indicate her attitude - you're not worth pleasing, but she is happy to put forth a lazy, patronizing attempt to manipulate you.

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O yes, and if their hair is still wet from the previous session .. [nt]

By plonss - Tue 24/05/22 08:21:33 GMT

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I get annoyed my some producers because...

By TrickyTrev - Tue 24/05/22 06:48:52 GMT

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One of the things that annoys me is shots that some of the producers bang out where a woman will have done many shots that day and on the later shots you can tell her underwear is still wet! They'll have jeans on, but they're already damp at the top from their undies. Again I'm not a complainer, just irritates me!

I'm not a fan of ripping clothes either - that gets to me.

Well done for daring to show an opinion though!

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are you ever annoyed by these things?

By Jordinwetjeans - Mon 23/05/22 22:59:06 GMT

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Hey forum...

I have enjoyed much of what I see on this forum however I do miss the candid contributions. There are times when certain things do bug me, although I don't like complaining...

For example, when I see a girl enjoying the water in her tight jeans, seeing that she forgot to do up her fly all the way, or push the pockets down into her jeans just bothers me. Yeah, I know it's a small thing but I do wonder if others share my stupidity...

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